MISYAR Marriages
Do we have misyar marriages in qatar..!!
For those who dont know what misyar marriage is :
Nikah Misyar or "travellers' marriage" (Arabic: نكاح المسيار) is the Sunni Muslim Nikah (marriage) contract carried out via the normal contractual procedure, with the specificity that the wife gives up several of her rights by her own free will, such as living with the husband, equal division of nights between wives in cases of polygamy, rights to housing, and maintenance money ("nafaqa").[1]
The couple continue to live separately from each other, as before their contract, and see each other to fulfill their needs in a halaal manner when they please.
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where the people of the future were justifying multiple marriages by saying it was the wedding celebration/party which counted and NOT the actual celebration of the sacred vow of marriage to one person for life.
If you didn't understand what I was quoting, then no matter .... I'm the one reading the book, so no reason you should be expected to get the gist of what I meant :D
Salaam
Marriage...Wedding...duh!
Jauntie...whats the difference?...are they not the same?
in a book I'm currently reading about a future society ATF (After The Flood - also know to us as what the result of Global Warming may be).
The 'Elders' of the Temple in this new world society had the following view:
"Weddings were a very big deal, absolutely central to the life of the community. There was nothing upon which the Temple placed more importance than the sanctity of marriage......
Marriages were good. It threfore went without saying that the more of them a person had, the better, more holy and mor filled with love that person was.
There had of course been a time when the nation's spiritual leaders, in their weakness and ignorance, had misunderstood that which the Lord and the Love desired from the great institution of marriage. Then it had been assumed that Jesus's supportive words delivered during the wedding at Cana indicated that the ideal spiritual course was to STAY married. It was now understood that Jesus had in fact stressed the importance of GETTING married....
Jesus did not celebrate a MARRIAGE at Cana, he celebrated a WEDDING. It was the wedding that counted ..."
Apologies for the interruption, but the text of my book was becoming more real to me as this thread went on!!!
I just know I read this idea of marriage in Iran and this was the reason given, I don't know any Iranians myself who participated in this I just know this was the offer.
Does one have to go through so much trouble...only for a shag.
The Saudies have really empowered the girls. But still they cant drive...ha ha!
"But it is only for Muslims and I have never heard of it being recognized here. The point of misyar is usually for a man who has another wife to take a 2nd one who he doesn't have to support in any way. Often, they keep it a secret from their first wife and kids. It's done in Saudi and is basically just an excuse to legitimize an affair"
The Reason for Mesyar marriage is not ONLY as u mentioned .. lemme explain more to you about our religion and culture.
If a man is working away from his country let's say for 5 years
and this man didn't find the right girl to marry her .. but he still want to fulfill his needs in a non-prohibted way .. so he might deal with a girl that he will pay her some amount of money and live together but Only for the 5 years ..
This is also called Mesyar marriage ..
they can live together ... the girl might drop down some of her rights ... at the end it's exactly like "Zenna" which is forbidden.
"Zenna is arabic word means having a sexual affair with a girl not his wife"
determining a time for the marriage is forbidden also ...
a lot of Sunnis in my country have said that this kind of marriage is Forbidden ...
finally the conclusion of this marriage is as follow:
1- Man fulfilled his needs for certain time and he didn't pay much money as in normal marriage .. he didn't have kids (as some will make it a condition)
just as if he has been with a cheep girl paying her some money and go except in this case he won't stay for one night.
2- Girl lost her virginty, in society she gained the name divorced .. she didn't get all her rights she never been treated as the girl for this man forever (I'm sure all u girls like that feeling) she fulfilled her needs equally as the man did
we can see from the above that this marriage make the Man a Winner and the woman become the Loser...
so after clarification for this points .. what do u think?
PSst ..GYpsy ... burn it up
P.S. After knowing and saying all this .. i'm still interested to marry the same way i ain't losing any thing .. so why not ?? but i'm still making my researches to know if it's forbiden or not. may be there are other points which i don't know
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Is not about bashing others is about the truth.If you consider bashing, then is your opinion for which I respect. But the morale of the story "Are we, Christians and Moslem alike a "religious and dogmatic society" that will follow the A,B,C AND not A, C, Z?. We are talking about the Ten Commandments.OR is it just a convenient way for people to say : "I'm christian or Moslem"and I do the hell I want everyday, except on Fridays or Sundays, when they ask for forgiveness of their sins? then IT starts the carnage life style over and over. For me is just Hypocritical either way you want to painted, It should applied both christians and moslem.No excuses for the immoralities. The Red Pope of Qatar Living
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so they do this just to have right to do like husband and wife at nite???
but normal life they live separately??
Everybody is right and Everybody is wrong, its depend where you stand
This is the blessing of religion to create prostitutes.
Greate culture. greate religion, Greate way
thanks
Niceguy
Yes indeed and how convenient for the men again lol kind of like a woman in every port - if he was a sailor lol.
yes very convenient for men to save women and get their kicks outta it too :)
Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot
Smokey, that's over jumping....LOL!
"There's nothing we can do to change the past, if it teaches you a lesson profit from it then, forget it."
Actually I have read about this before, where the situation is presented in a totally different aspect, mainly this is to save women who don't have a husband from becoming old spinsters. However, when he has enough of this one he can travel onto the next one - how simple why don't we all get this travellers marriage thing lol.
I have heard of this happening in Iran.
"It's done in Saudi and is basically just an excuse to legitimize an affair".
This is what i'm talking about....we should all come up with legal ways to do immoral things woohooo!! now lets find a way to help pedo's feel comfortable too :| legalize child prostitution. Grrrrr
Where there is Fire...There is Coke. Where there is Rum..There is Smoke - Sir Smoke-a-Lot
I like this Misyar way. HE HE LOL!
"There's nothing we can do to change the past, if it teaches you a lesson profit from it then, forget it."
Sex on tap and no hassle with ladies...Sounds good to me !!!
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Scarlett, I would make sure to put them on a nice silver platter... its all about the presentation :D
tra la la
I have this mental image of you stuffing them and serving those same balls to him for dinner...lmao...
pope...tough to have an amendment when you are 6 ft under...ahem...
Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be. --Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)
LOl Pope, see this way he will never even think about any other girl :D
tra la la
To cut his private parts was part of the contract?
I sure hate for him to walk around like a castrated mutant for life.
The Red Pope of Qatar Living
Popey, I just show him MY marriage contract which says he can only marry me...and if he breaks it I get to cutt off his balls :D
tra la la
If your husband approaches you to amend your marriage for a travelers marriage what would you do?
Leave my Donkey alone, he had a long electoral vote in Pakistan.
The Red Pope of Qatar Living
run, donkey, run!!!
Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be. --Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)
LOL, Popey might get mad if I say!! But the donkey is still scared :D
tra la la
from route 66???? ok am showing my age here...
Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be. --Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)
ah but Scarlett, we all know they get their kicks from somewhere else :/
tra la la
now everyone knows priests can't marry....
Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be. --Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)
My Confession Booth is eager to listen and learn more about travellers' marriage" arrangements, while I'm traveling abroad in the world.
The Red Pope of Qatar Living
I think your right I'm out...
You can't teach experience...
ngggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...i think of that also "Gypsy"...
Oh....I thought you could live together. I was thinking this was the perfect solution for say, expats, who want to live together.
"I am not a pretty girl, that is not what I do, I ain't no damsel in distress and I don't need to be rescued. So put me down punk, I'm not a maiden fair, maybe there's a kitten stuck up a tree somewhere." Ani Difranco
I thought you could live together if you had a misyar?
"I am not a pretty girl, that is not what I do, I ain't no damsel in distress and I don't need to be rescued. So put me down punk, I'm not a maiden fair, maybe there's a kitten stuck up a tree somewhere." Ani Difranco