Good offer from QP??

It is a good offer. The only downside is that you are based in Dukan and will probably have to live there. It is soo desolate and odd it may drive you mad. the golf course is wondrous in a not so good way. This being said the 50QAr per day is something that you may want to negotiate on. I am told that Dukan have their own liquor store so that is the only benefit you will have on the long hot nights.

As always Vince one opinion is not the same as others. Most people you talk to nowadays hate Doha for many reasons, but i love it!

Good luck

Hi,

This is my first time to work outside my country and I just want to ask your honest opinion/s on the salary that I received from my employer. I will be joining the company on July 15 and I am having 2nd thoughts of cancelling the offer (though I already signed the Employment Contract). I dnt have any smoking and drinking habits (home type buddy). I have a wife and 2 kids in the Philippines. This is a job grade 14 and my position there will be a QA Engineer. My question is this,

1. Will I survive in Doha, Qatar with this Salary Offer?

2. Will I be able to save money to be able to send money for my family in the Philippines?

3. What would be my expected salary based on my experience?

Basic Monthly Salary: 4,800.00

Housing Allowance: 2,500.00

Transport Allowance: 1,000.00

GSM Allowance: 200.00

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Total Monthly Salary: 8,500.00

Experience: Planning Head - 5 years

EHS Practitioner - 5 years

Production Manager - 3 years

QMR - 1 year but more than 5 years of intensive experience in ISO 9001 and TS 16949

Thanks for your inputs.

Hi All,

I am moving to Dukhan in August. Is the compound still full? I know the last entry was 2008 but no-one has even suggested to me that I would not be living on the compound.

Any info welcome.

And if they have started negotiating the basic salaries again they will be up the creek without a paddle.

Sure way to chaos!

If the contract type is different OK but not on a standard contract.

18.5K for grade 16 is very low. Minimum ask for aound 21K. They are offering 18K to grade 14 nowadays.

No chance of increase in housing allowance. This is fixed for all employees. Only negotiable figure is basic salary. Good luck.

Man that's a good offer. Did you get the job?

vince, i got your PM, but couldn't reply - it says that 'sender does not accept reply'.

to answer your questions - my hubby was offered grade 16, basic salary of 18.5k. He has 10 years of experience-currently working as a specialist.

like you and someone else i've met over the forum, we have not made up our mind yet. you can ignore my previous posting on stating that we've decided to go.

what we're gonna do is, we will write to joan, asking for an increase in housing allowance or a written guarantee of accommodation from QP. we definitely do not want to leave our comfortable, spacious home here, only to go and live in a small 2BR apartment for a few extra riyals...

these are the things that we are considering right now:

1) we both go

2) hubby go, i stay here - the most profitable financially.

3) we both stay here

if i go, i will try to find a job there, but i'm sure it's not gonna be easy, and we can't count on that.

If you dont mind, could u tell me what is your husband position and approx. basics pay offerred by QP??And how many years of relevant experience he has?

And when you going there, are you going to to look for job? What your current position now?

Thanks...

Missing

sure lady cactuss. as they said you'll be meeting the same faces again and again there... hehe

so far, have done the medical check up, have gone to wisma putra, but was told that it'll take a month to get the letter. my husband can only go there after 3 months of getting his visa..so, earliest is september.. but probably he'll go after raya.. as for me, i'll only go there next year, after he's completed the 3 months probationary period.. so i guess we'll see u there!!

Thanks Noble-Man for your piece of advise. am very much agreed to what lady cactuss said, for the overseas working experience to make good CV. It is a large piece of stepping stone! Hehe

lady cactuss am still at very initial stage. guess will only be there earliest by august or much later.

how about your preparation then?

Thanks guys, for your info..

We have decided to go.. after doing some detailed calculations on income + expenses for 5 yrs, plus taking into accounts our epf savings here, we found that it is still more profitable to go..other than that, this is a good opportunity to get a 'middle east experience', which will look good in the resume.. we don't plan to stay there sampai mati pun.. just as a stepping stone to a better opportunity, perhaps..

vince, when are you planning to go? have done all the documentations yet?

I agree with you. My post was meant to find out present going rate for these categories. Since rates are extremely volatile these days due to market conditions. If people post their experience, this will help other people while negotiating their respective packages.

That obviously fits within the peer group to maintain some order of equity. It shouldn't apply to just Indian and Pakistani but to all similar "regional" nationalities.

There were 4 categories the last I heard: Qatari, other arab, asian and western

Lady Cactuss :

Dukhan Compound is FULL. You have to stay in Doha and commute everyday (the Doha-Dukhan road is currently being upgraded/ under construction, so don't expect a smooth ride).

Please visit this website : www.gulf-times.com, go to Classified and see how much it would cost to rent a house in Doha. Under current market, you have to top up the QP Housing Allowance from your Basic salary to pay for the house rental.

I always give this frank advice to Malaysians who intend to come here : If you're not desperate, DON'T COME. If you still decide to come, please prepare Plan B, what you'll do if things don't turn out well here.

Hey Vince !

"you will never believe it..." means school fees here are super expensive !

Are you sure you want to come here, Vince ?? Have you thought and considered about it very carefully ??? The green green grass may turn brown once you reach here.....

Although QP has standard basic salaries for specific grades however, it has been observed that asians (specially Indians & Pakistanis etc) are placed at lower to low-mid end of that range whereas western are placed at low-mid to high-mid range. Others also fall somewhere in the middle.

How long have QP had different basic salaries based on nationality? As I understand it, the same pay scales apply to all.

In the peer groupings, I think you will find that malaysian are classed as Asian.

15 years.. wow.. that was a long time man... but no doubt the quality of life is good.

what is your field and income like then? sorry if your are offended of being asking this.. am very curious of people living in qatar coz i'll become one soon.. hehe..

you will never believe it.. mean?? Sorry.. no kids so not very sure on education fees these days... but very concern coz will have one soon.. :) a bit too early to worry but i heard that registration for school need to be done early to secure places..

by the way, you seemed to know very well of both malaysia and qatar living. how long have you been in qatar? mind to share your years of working experiences, field and income like?

Sure we are not in the wining situation here. I am here for last 2 1/2 years. Before that I was in S'pore for 15 years. I have been up to Kuntan in Pahang driving coastal way. I live in D-ring Road. New Hilal to the exact.

oh that means i will either find a replacement or pay for the remaining period.. that not good to hear.. but i believe if i can find replacement provided i dont mind to lose some $$ i guess.

am from kl. n u? u in qatar now? which part?

Once you enter in to a contract you are reuired to stay for the total duration unless you find somebody to serve the balance period. Finding somebody is your problem and not theirs. otherwise they will create a big scene for you. Remember they have your post dated cheques. They just bang the cheque at the post dated date. They will go to police if you close the account or left no money in the account. be careful.

anyway which part Malaysia you are from.

thanks sl. that is not too bad compared to if i will have to compensate for the remaining period.

Early termination is loosing your one month's security deposit

thanks sl. what about the possibility of early termination? or i'll have to pay up for the remaining periods?

Chances are remote. If u can find something in Shahaniya it is better but I have my doubts. Most probably u will be end up in Doha.

Tenancy is 1 year contract. one month deposit and one month rental at the begining of the contract and post dated cheques for remaing period.

Hey sl your info. worries me a lot as I will be based in Dukhan then. Wondering is there any other places can stay other than Doha?

How is the tenancy terms like? is there a fixed term tenancy or monthly? how many week/month minimum I need to rent an apartment/flat/house?

Hey sl your info. worries me a lot as I will be based in Dukhan then. Wondering is there any other places can stay other than Doha?

The Dukhan QP compound is fully occupied at the moment. New compound is under construction now and wont be ready for sometime now. It about 1 hour drive from the city. You have to leave around 5.00am everyday for work. There are plenty of Malaysians here. Welcome to the Fine Living of Qatar.

Hello Vince and the rest of community,

My husband got an offer from QP in April.

The job is in Dukhan. He might have gone to the same

interview as you in AP rec. office in April.

We also would like to know about dukhan, tried to search

but limited info available.

The offer only mentioned "Accomodation will be provided in Dukhan

once available". We not sure if there are sufficient accomodation

there. If not, we have to live in Doha and he has to drive daily

to dukhan. From the available info about Doha, the rental is very expensive and the housing assistance of 6.5k would not be sufficient

for us.

Please advise & share with us if you got any contacts established with malaysian community or additional info about dukhan.

Vince,

Depending on your salary grade, QP will reimburse either in full or partial.

For Malaysians, QP use Qatar International School (QIS) as the Benchmark. Other schools which offer higher fees than QIS, you'll have to pay the difference.

Please also note the following :

1. There is shortage of seats in International Schools at the moment. Even if it is available, it may be available at schools that are more expensive than QIS

2. QP only pay for tuition fees. Other fees like books, computer, extra curricular activities, transport, uniform, etc..employees have to pay themselves.

3. If you compare fees at International Schools here with those in Malaysia....you will never believe it !

Grades below a certain lower number is off limits to westerners as the pay is less. I think its vice versa for the asians when you go higher

Hi again Noble-Man. Thanks for being so helful. I read from other forum that for Malaysian, QP only pays for certain % on Malaysian's children's education, is it true?

Thanks!

There is a hell of job discrimination based on skin color out here... Also no scope for career development and savings potential are eroding...

I have heard that different basic salaries exist based on the nationality of the individual within QP. For the beenfit of all people intending to join QP, will everybody post the basic salary of the nationality they know for lets say grade 14 within QP. Nationalities may be diffentiated as follows:

1. Asian (Includes Indian, Phillipines, Pakistan etc)

2. Arabs (Includes, everybody from North Africa to Egypt to Lebanon, Syria etc).

3. Western (Includes Western Europe like UK, France, Germany, Canada, US etc)

4. Semi Western (Includes South Africa, Eastern Europe, Malaysia etc)

All inputs shall be helpful.

Vince,

Yearly salary increment in QP ranges from 0-8 % (this will be stated in your contract I supposed). But please note that how much increment you'll be getting is not really dependent on how good your work is, rather it depends on your Departmental Manager on how he wants to distribute the Increment Budget. What I'm saying is there is no transparent/ objective method within QP on how Salary Increment % is being decided/ distributed.

The other factor that I guess worth considering is the strengthening value of RM. Qatar Riyal is pegged at 3.65 to 1 USD, while exchange rate for USD : RM now has reached 3.3. There are various reports I've read that USD : RM exchange rate will reach 3.0 next year. That is scary though as your income in Qatar Riyal will shrink by 10-15 % when you transfer money back home.

Nassah in your bio you state that you're working in the UAE in Construction as a project manager.

Is this QP offer considerably more than what you can make in the UAE?

You're basic seems ok but compare it with what your field pays in the ME. Project Managers can command very high salaries in certain fields. Supply and demand.

If you want a 6 bedroom villa though it's going to be 15-20,000QR/month. You're housing allowance is non-negotiable so expect to dip into your basic salary. Regarding family accomodation for only the first 3 months this is definitely true. After 3 months HR will threaten to charge you 500QR/day until you leave and they will offer no assistance in helping you find a place.

Hi all,

I'm a newbie! This forum is an excellent tool for sharing info amongst the people.

I have recently been offered the following QP offer

Grade : 16

Basic : 26K

Transport : 1K

Accom : 6K + suppl allow approx 5K

Furniture : 45K

Free Schooling for my 5 kids in British school

Free Medical coverage for family

Tickets : Yearly economy return tickets to & from London for all family

Leave : 30 work days

Misc : Full relocation costs

Interest free car loan 3 times my basic ie. 78K

I was told by the QP HR guy the following

1)Max for grade 16 basic is 28K.

2)QP will arrange for family accom in a compound for 1st 3 months only

3)Tickets are encashable

He did not mention that there would be any Western Inducement Allowance which I understand is approx. 385 GBP per month.

Do you think there is any room for negotiation?

What monthly living costs should be expected for a familiy of 2 + 5 kids?

Hope to hear from you soon..

I was told that all indefinite contract employee is subject to salary increment. Any idea how much is the average increment?

By the way Noble-Man,thank you very much. You have been a great help.

Being offered Basic of QAR 17,500 / month for Grade 14 is good, considering you only have 7 years work experience (and I assume you're in your late 20's or early 30's).

However, please take into consideration the following :

1. If there is any performance bonus you receive from your current employer as no performance bonus is paid by QP

2. There is no EPF contribution by employer here

3. If your spouse is working and decides to join you, than her loss of income.

Regards.

If you can tell us the following, that could help to give you a good advice :

1. How many years of relevant working experience you have ?

2. What is the position offered to you & at what Grade ?

3. Will you be on Definite or Indefinite contract ?

Hi guys,

I'm new to the forum. I need some advise from you guys.

I'm from Malaysia. I just offered a permanent job in QP based at Dukhan.

Just wanted to ask your opinion on this package I was initially offered:

Base salary: QRs17,500/mth

Transport allowance: QRs1,000/ mth

Housing allowance: Qrs6,500/mth(if not provided with QP housing)

Car loan: Int free, 5X base salary

Location allowance: QRs50/day

I'm married with no kids. Is this a good offer?? Do you think this package is enough to cover our living expenses?? How is the cost of living in Dukhan?? Is anyone here work in Dukhan?PLease advise.

Your advise is much appreciated.

Thanks guys.

han19, I doubt if he would be able to find a F/F 2 bed appt for 7000. He may get it if he is lucky but I think for planning purpose he should consider 7000 for an unfurnished 2 bed appt.

nnagaty, give the full figures, dont worry no will advise you wrong here.

your good interests is what we seek when anyone advises here.

no housing allowance? thats a little trouble to reckon. u need to find a suitable place in a certain amount,depends upon your budget.

assume 7000qrs for a 2 bed furnished apprt, water and electricity bills are seperate, maybe a 1000for that.so approx 8000 is your housing.

what about kids tuition fees, most good companies pay either full or half the tuition fees.

happy heart

drive safe because someone is waiting for you at home

How anyone can give his/her opinion if the toal package is unknown.

I GOT AN OFFER AS AN IT manger (25 yrs experience) for -----qr + 1300Qr car allownce+tickit to home country + medical but no housing alwance is it suitable offer

Mr Ezaida.. We wud like to reach you in Msia to get some opinion. Can you pls contact us at [email protected]? Appreciate your participation.. Rosman.

Take it or u'll be regret..!!

that's my comment..

And is the stipulation for the warranty that it is serviced at the required intervals by the main dealer?

From which dealer ????

A variety of new car deals can be had. Just bought a new one myself and got 2 years full warranty unlimited miles. 5 year power train warranty. 40,000 km full service no cost and price included 1rst year insurance and registration. There is competetion you just have to shop around.

Car maintenance is not free but repairs due to faulty parts should be. You may have to pay for the labour to fit new parts. Check that all your entitlements are in writing when you buy.

The warranty will be subject to the car being maintained by the agent and that can be expensive.

Ezaida.. u mentioned abt going interview with QP in Msia or in Doha? if in Msia, probably we went to the same week, can u contact me via email so that we can exchange infos, thanks. There is Msian Community Association in Qatar for those who lived in Qatar..

like I said it's comfortable living for an appartment at the moment villas are quite expensive.

sorry about that....just want to be sure is all....cheers!

nasser you don't need to post your question in three different places.

It's more than what your are making, it's enough survive in a flat with and have savings than take it.

A grade 13 at 13000QR +8400 housing allowanc+1000 transport+50 per day location+free schooling for kids.

Is this standard from QP?Why the difference in allowances???:(

no masters programs here...if u join a college then you pay an arm and leg for a diploma........if university..event hen u pay the same to get a degree.

no decent masters programs here :-(

since she is a doctor...u cud check with weill cornell college which i think is supposed to be medical college, but i dont think they offer masters. you may have to chek the online study option.

if its a short course n she is too kenn on it then i wud suggest she does it back home and visit you as and when convenient.

yup new car....all maintenance is free unless major problems not covered in the maintenance.....which will be rare bcos its a new car....u will know that when u buy the car.

Thank you all again for your contribution.

When it comes to car maintenance, does that mean everything is free?? You just send your car for service and they change everything for you??

My wife is a doctor. She plans to pursue her studies (Masters in Public Health) if she decides to join me there. We can't find any info with regards to colleges/universities in Qatar that are offering Medical Masters programs. Hope you can point us in the right direction.

Thanks again.

Hope you get the job. The following estimates may be helpful.

1. Stay at Al khor. 10 -15 Minutes drive to Ras Lafan.

2. Rent around 6K-8K for 2 bed room furnished Apartment.

3. Brand New Car 1.6ltr. 55-65K. Bank may asked you to pay 10% down payment. If you pay down payment you will have to pay QR1500 a month for 4 years for your car loan.

4. car loan will be approved in 24 hrs if your papers are all OK.

5. Insurance is 4% of the car value.

6. Fuel cost negligible.

7. No maintence cost for new cars as they come wirh 3-5 year warranty.

8. Utilities sorry no idea.

Do your own calculations based on the above.

hey pal,

sorry didnt see the posting title that u are working for qp.

doesnt qp provide for the accomodation to raslaffan employees.

Thank you very much for the input. I just went for their interview last Saturday and this is what they mentioned the package will be like (after meeting up with the HR manager). Tentative in a sense that I have no formal black and white from them yet. Hopefully I'll get a favorable response from them in 2-3 weeks time. Will need to pore over the terms though.

I was thinking of staying nearer to Ras Laffan as I don't fancy waking up so early just to drive to work. :P What would my budget for food, rental, utilities, fuel, car maintenance & insurance be like roughly?? Do you think QRs12k/month is enough to cover all that?

congrats mate!

offer seems good but not great. Only thing is the high cost of living, othereise ok. you mentioned they have made an 'initial offer'. what does that mean ? QP normally does not negotiate - have you got anything in black and white or have they asked you to come over and decide. the reason i ask is that they are very specific with offers.

anyway, hope all's well and see u here mate.

I definately think it's a good offer. And your savings will be significantly greater than what you would save in Malaysia. congrats

are u going to be working for an govt org in ras laffan.usually accomodation is provided to ras laffan staff unless its private org.

living in doha u will have to set aside anything between 5000-8000 for a 2or 3 bed flat.furnishing is seperate.

driving from doha to raslaffan is no game either.

u shud be able to save.....so i think it should be good.

happy heart

drive safe cos someone is waiting for u at home

Dear its good but very good offer hold it