Lowering the bar won't help achieving the objectives of educational reform, you have to start from the bottom and work gradually to the top.In the republic, Plato mentioned "Compulsory learning never sticks in the mind", perhaps more should be done to motivate the pupils.
I'll ask again, should the supreme education council lower the bar and adopt an open door policy for higher education at both Qatar University & Education city?
Is the current admission requirements at both campuses different than what is applied world wide?
Yet another example, how some of the local public lack the interest to struggle for good education. Just few days after the supreme education council started the admission process at Qatar's first community college, more than 3000 high school graduates with different GPA showed up for registration. Despite the fact that QCC have announced , they'll accept only 300 students in their first year due to the limited facilities at their temporarily campus
While i support open door policy for education,i think a clear message must be sent to locals that community College is meant for students with lower GPA and not a process to skip admission requirements at Qatar university & Eduction city.
Why should the SEC lower the bar?it's our responsibility to strive for good education.
What a nonsense. Every language has an academic level. And there are numerous examples where words from Einstein or other German scientists were not even translated into English.
English is the language that is commonly used not only for academia, but also trade contracts and likewise. And since Qatar is trying to catch up with the world, it would be beneficial to learn a language that the world does its business in. Besides every new langauge that we learn opens a new world, new possibilities to us.
Qataris do not have to lose their culture just because they learn English. Arabic/Islamic education can be ingrained parallel to a more broader outlook during a student's formative years.
There is a famous quote , but I don't know whose "The Arabs don't read , if they read they don't understand and if they understand they don't apply..".
The gulf countries could change their recruitment policies and only recruit Arabs. There are plenty of palestianins, jordanians, egpytians, lebanaese, algerians, morrocans who would love to work here
in other countries , even entering them and working there is requiring a certain level of the native language.
imagine with me, if this thing applied in arabic countries.it will really be a good point will be registered to countries of this area, plus i think it will reduce the misunderstanding that is happening here between our culture and others cultures'.then they will appreciate what we have and how we think.
at least they will look at us as humans not copiers
hamadaCZ:
in another way i think the blame in this is on us because it our mistake that we didn't increase the translation from other languages to ours , and the opposite is the same.
and if there is a translation then it will be just for the others trashes and it will kind of copying and pasting, without logical analysis
it is really shame when we see a book like "taok al-hamama" by ibn hazm al-andalusi that we see in bookstores here, has been found in its Spanish version before they find the arabic one, a 1000 thousand years old book talks about love in logical and emotional ways at these days in Andalusia.
English is the sole language of academia.There are limited numbers of research papers and references available in Arabic and are mostly outdated. I can understand the locals' frustration, but English is a must in order to create a knowledge based economy. China is spending humongous amounts of money on their students in English speaking countries and on English language preparation courses inside China. Qatar can preserve Arabic language and identity by running parallel programs of English and Arabic simultaneously.
There was a government initiative few years back that all official corresopondences be in Arabic, the same is followed well at most government offices. Except at operational government offices , where most professional employees are non Arabic speakers.
As per Qatar's constitution, Arabic is the official language. But it's a fact that English is the official business language. The language used in contracts, official correspondences with the private sector and international parties
i know it is out of topic but i have one question bothering me a long time ago
why when people should travel to USA or Canada, they ask for a minimum level of English.
in France, French.
in japan, Japanese.
why there is no such this kind of rules in the gulf area.
and you know it is important,and i admit that they are the origin of arabic.
- i still remember a qatari elder , was angry and shouting in kahramaa and saying :
" i am in my own country and and no one can understand me" then i approach and helped him and calmed him down and became his translator with my humble english.
I don't recall any Qatari students at QU or EDC who spoke English among themselves!
Like every where else, some English words have been introduced in our daily dialect.
When Qatar university introduced admission requirements like TOFEL & IELTS, it's main objective is to comply with the Requirements of the labor market. In addition, to be accredited & internationally recognized.
That's when the local public started complaining that government schools students are too weak to achieve both QU or EDC admission requirements.
The supreme council of education then introduced English as the main language for Science & Math in government charter schools. Again, the locals weren't satisfied and started complaining that this is a RAND CORP plot to destroy the local culture & make the future generation lose their identity !!!
-why in universities you see Arabs are talking with each others in english in arabic universities?
i really get sad when i see this.
and you know better than me that english is very stupid and easy language comparing with arabic,
the national public library is not the cause,a small hall is better than nothing, u should see ours in my home town and yet you can see people are "eating" books
the problem that they lost the ambition to learn, fi you want them to learn? give the the last gate , the ambition.
whatever we try to pour knowledge in our kids brain by fantasy buildings or great teachers we will fail, unless we plant the ambition to learn.
when i was student the first proverb i learned in english in my school in a book "50 years old"
"you can bring the horse to the lake, but you can't enforce it to drink "
If parents encourage their offspring to read, They'll have strong lingual skills in both Arabic & English
Unfortunately, there are very few who read and very few public reading campaigns
Have anyone been to the national public library? it's a disaster
I've studied all my life at government schools, we've been taught very little English. Yet, many lack lingual skills in Arabic. Till this day, i see only few who are capable of writing a technical or professional letter in classic Arabic. This comes to me as a surprise as many claim they recite Quran for the whole month of Ramadan, which must make them Fluent in classic Arabic Language Skills
Many think it's the education institutes responsibility to develop those skills. what about the parents role?
Learning starts at home. Many parents rather buy their kids the latest computer game or play station than buy them a book
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In what way is an open approach to education considered brainwashing?
I thought the more we learned the more we realise there is so much morethat we don't know :)
Lowering the bar won't help achieving the objectives of educational reform, you have to start from the bottom and work gradually to the top.In the republic, Plato mentioned "Compulsory learning never sticks in the mind", perhaps more should be done to motivate the pupils.
simply they can't
qatar is a small country and the expanded universities will face an emptiness, because after a while every one finished his college.
if you compare the number and size of universities with the population, i think you will see what i mean.
this my personal opinion,and it is not based on reliable statistics.
I'll ask again, should the supreme education council lower the bar and adopt an open door policy for higher education at both Qatar University & Education city?
Is the current admission requirements at both campuses different than what is applied world wide?
Yet another example, how some of the local public lack the interest to struggle for good education. Just few days after the supreme education council started the admission process at Qatar's first community college, more than 3000 high school graduates with different GPA showed up for registration. Despite the fact that QCC have announced , they'll accept only 300 students in their first year due to the limited facilities at their temporarily campus
http://www.english.education.gov.qa/section/sec/_community_college
While i support open door policy for education,i think a clear message must be sent to locals that community College is meant for students with lower GPA and not a process to skip admission requirements at Qatar university & Eduction city.
Why should the SEC lower the bar?it's our responsibility to strive for good education.
which has 11 official languages....
or India for that matter, where I am told there are over 400 languages and dialects....
however English is the one that is required...
What a pathetic cartoon.......... Any excuse to get rid of the missus ;)
'Arabic/Islamic education can be ingrained parallel to a more broader outlook during a student's formative years.'
ice that's brainwashing!
They give a shyte for English in France.
What a nonsense. Every language has an academic level. And there are numerous examples where words from Einstein or other German scientists were not even translated into English.
ice
i am not against english , nor with
my point is some countries make rules in learning their languages, why not arabic countries
i am with people to learn more languages, because every language you learn is a new mind you get.
English is the language that is commonly used not only for academia, but also trade contracts and likewise. And since Qatar is trying to catch up with the world, it would be beneficial to learn a language that the world does its business in. Besides every new langauge that we learn opens a new world, new possibilities to us.
Qataris do not have to lose their culture just because they learn English. Arabic/Islamic education can be ingrained parallel to a more broader outlook during a student's formative years.
There is a famous quote , but I don't know whose "The Arabs don't read , if they read they don't understand and if they understand they don't apply..".
I would not see it as racist it would be the same as English speaking countries requiring a certain standard of English for immigration
I'm chuckling over the cartoon because it's so patently obvious that the husband doesn't give a rat's patoot about either his children OR English!
Mandi
but it will be racist then exiled
i don't like this solution
Let the best win
The gulf countries could change their recruitment policies and only recruit Arabs. There are plenty of palestianins, jordanians, egpytians, lebanaese, algerians, morrocans who would love to work here
its the truth
gensis:
in other countries , even entering them and working there is requiring a certain level of the native language.
imagine with me, if this thing applied in arabic countries.it will really be a good point will be registered to countries of this area, plus i think it will reduce the misunderstanding that is happening here between our culture and others cultures'.then they will appreciate what we have and how we think.
at least they will look at us as humans not copiers
hamadaCZ:
in another way i think the blame in this is on us because it our mistake that we didn't increase the translation from other languages to ours , and the opposite is the same.
and if there is a translation then it will be just for the others trashes and it will kind of copying and pasting, without logical analysis
it is really shame when we see a book like "taok al-hamama" by ibn hazm al-andalusi that we see in bookstores here, has been found in its Spanish version before they find the arabic one, a 1000 thousand years old book talks about love in logical and emotional ways at these days in Andalusia.
English is the sole language of academia.There are limited numbers of research papers and references available in Arabic and are mostly outdated. I can understand the locals' frustration, but English is a must in order to create a knowledge based economy. China is spending humongous amounts of money on their students in English speaking countries and on English language preparation courses inside China. Qatar can preserve Arabic language and identity by running parallel programs of English and Arabic simultaneously.
There was a government initiative few years back that all official corresopondences be in Arabic, the same is followed well at most government offices. Except at operational government offices , where most professional employees are non Arabic speakers.
As per Qatar's constitution, Arabic is the official language. But it's a fact that English is the official business language. The language used in contracts, official correspondences with the private sector and international parties
Poor UM Sajma :(
does our language deserve a minimum level of respect?
at least we have to remember that its the language of quran
i know it is out of topic but i have one question bothering me a long time ago
why when people should travel to USA or Canada, they ask for a minimum level of English.
in France, French.
in japan, Japanese.
why there is no such this kind of rules in the gulf area.
and you know it is important,and i admit that they are the origin of arabic.
- i still remember a qatari elder , was angry and shouting in kahramaa and saying :
" i am in my own country and and no one can understand me" then i approach and helped him and calmed him down and became his translator with my humble english.
can you answer me?
Are you referring to universities in Qatar?
I don't recall any Qatari students at QU or EDC who spoke English among themselves!
Like every where else, some English words have been introduced in our daily dialect.
When Qatar university introduced admission requirements like TOFEL & IELTS, it's main objective is to comply with the Requirements of the labor market. In addition, to be accredited & internationally recognized.
That's when the local public started complaining that government schools students are too weak to achieve both QU or EDC admission requirements.
The supreme council of education then introduced English as the main language for Science & Math in government charter schools. Again, the locals weren't satisfied and started complaining that this is a RAND CORP plot to destroy the local culture & make the future generation lose their identity !!!
-why in universities you see Arabs are talking with each others in english in arabic universities?
i really get sad when i see this.
and you know better than me that english is very stupid and easy language comparing with arabic,
the national public library is not the cause,a small hall is better than nothing, u should see ours in my home town and yet you can see people are "eating" books
the problem that they lost the ambition to learn, fi you want them to learn? give the the last gate , the ambition.
whatever we try to pour knowledge in our kids brain by fantasy buildings or great teachers we will fail, unless we plant the ambition to learn.
when i was student the first proverb i learned in english in my school in a book "50 years old"
"you can bring the horse to the lake, but you can't enforce it to drink "
No, it's not a big deal...
Children have a capability to learn quickly...
by comics, cartoons & games they learn a lot,
All You need only Provide them & guide them :)
not entirely true!
If parents encourage their offspring to read, They'll have strong lingual skills in both Arabic & English
Unfortunately, there are very few who read and very few public reading campaigns
Have anyone been to the national public library? it's a disaster
I've studied all my life at government schools, we've been taught very little English. Yet, many lack lingual skills in Arabic. Till this day, i see only few who are capable of writing a technical or professional letter in classic Arabic. This comes to me as a surprise as many claim they recite Quran for the whole month of Ramadan, which must make them Fluent in classic Arabic Language Skills
Many think it's the education institutes responsibility to develop those skills. what about the parents role?
Learning starts at home. Many parents rather buy their kids the latest computer game or play station than buy them a book
if the digging is strong, the trees will die .same with multinational regions ;)
If the roots are strong, then the plant will survive. Same with culture.
Rubbish cartoon anyways.
take care
lol...not! what was she thinking hiring a hotter & smarter house maid than herself??
The truth is funny. It's sad you see the locals losing part of their culture
Marrying the help is never a good idea.
I am confused..
mods ...
What is so funny in above cartoon? Nonsense
(F) type loOlll
Oh..no not fair.....